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Old September 16th, 2019, 06:38 PM
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Syleans are a minor human race, but Sylea (per T4:M0) as of Year 0 has fourteen billion inhabitents of which 80% are Vilani, 11% Solomani, 6% Sylean, and 3% mixes and other. Since Sylea had Vilani and Solomani influence for more than 2000 years before Year 0, I don't think we can count on the linguistic origin of names to be very meaningful. That is too long of time for mixing.
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Syleans are a minor human race, but Sylea (per T4:M0) as of Year 0 has fourteen billion inhabitents of which 80% are Vilani, 11% Solomani, 6% Sylean, and 3% mixes and other. Since Sylea had Vilani and Solomani influence for more than 2000 years before Year 0, I don't think we can count on the linguistic origin of names to be very meaningful. That is too long of time for mixing.
According to travellerrpg.com Sylea(world) Demographics: The population is 50% Native Sylean, 36% Vilani, 11% Solomani, and 3% all others.
I don't know what the source used for this was, or what date is used (I would guess 1105). Would the demography have changed that much in a thousand years? It certainly could have, especially if the Syleans were given preferential treatment by the Imperium, but is there any evidence that such change occurred, or at least why it occurred? Sorry for getting even further off topic, just trying to understand Sylean history.
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Unfortunately, the traveller wiki is NOT a reliable source of canon. It is filled with fan fiction mixed in among the canon data. Makes the wiki much less useful than it could be.

As it is, if you don't find the source, you have to take the data with a huge helping of salt.

PS - you can find the ethnic breakdown I referenced on p 44. of M0.
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PS - you can find the ethnic breakdown I referenced on p 44. of M0.
Note that T4 can be a bit sketchy in general, due to the circumstances under which it was written.

Between the M0 materials and the GT writeup on the Syleans, the percentages are probably not pure groupings in most cases, but more a measure of the ingredients in the genetic soup of Sylea. Relatively pure pockets may exist, but the longevity rules in MT's Vilani & Vargr for purestrain Vilani make it pretty clear that pretty much everyone more than a few jumps from Vland is a mutt by the time of the Third Imperium.

Almost buried genetically by the Vilani, the Syleans apparently resurged both genetically and culturally during the 1500 years of the ("real") Long Night. Similar ethnic blenderizing happened all over the former Rule of Man. 1500 years is more than enough time for the beginning state of ethnic identity to be reset more than once, and a strong Sylean identity was part of their rise to become the Third Imperium.
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Some notes from T5.10 Book 2 - Final release:

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Zirunkariish was . . . founded by the noble Vilani family of Shiishuginsa in -425.

Delgado was . . . Founded in 997.

General is a major heavy industry company known for inexpensive products of fair to adequate quality. The company was formed by merger of a number of smaller manufacturing concerns shortly after the end of the Civil War, in the period 620 to 622.

Instellarms is a specialty supplier of military goods . . . Founded in 626, shortly after the end of the Civil War.

Hortalez is the dominant insurance and financial services company within the Imperium.. . . Founded in 221 by Lucienne Hortalez, and capitalized from family funds.

Sternmetal Horizons traces its origins to a merger (or hostile takeover) of Vilani starship construction companies by the Terran naval contractor Sternmetal in the early days of the post-First Empire occupation. The result survived the Long Night to become a major supplier to Imperial and planetary navies.

GSbAG is a major shipbuilder providing a range of services from construction to ship support, maintenance, and upgrades. The company manages starports through the Imperium. Founded in -2438 from a consortium of old Terran manufacturing firms (this history is disputed).

ImperialLines is a major interstellar shipping firm (and rival to Tukera Lines). Despite covering most of the entire Imperium, its assets are not large enough that it is considered a megacorporation. Formed in the decades after the Civil War with major investments from the Imperial family.

LSP Ling Standard Products pursues industrial production and natural resource exploitation with a series of vertically integrated channels which dominate the markets in specific systems and regions. Founded by the legendary Captain John Meyers during The Rule of Man.
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