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Old February 22nd, 2008, 03:22 AM
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Default 3G3 small arms design - anyone tried it?

I just got my hands on 3G3 (Guns! Guns! Guns!) by BTRC.

Has anyone here tried it for Traveller weapons design? There are conversion rules for MT, TNE and T4.

The system seems quite smooth and realistic, but some actual user feedback would be nice...

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Old February 22nd, 2008, 07:36 PM
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I have it and its nice, although I use ffs1 instead.
The MT conversion set-up is nice in that I based my own conversions off of it.
using muzzle energy, bullet mass, bore, etc....I can find pen and attenuation
I'm developing my own system for 'damage' though.

I still love it as a reference book.
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 09:06 PM
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Default Love it, specially if you are a 'gearhead'.

If you have a games system that you like or use all the time I would suggest the following:

Take one weapon from the game system and build it using 3G3. Then compare the 3G3 stats versus the game stats.
This will give a good idea of what adjustments (if any) you will need to make the weapons compatible.

Then you can make up new weapons for the game that don't exist yet.

It is also fun just to make up weapons (again if you are a 'gearhead')

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I liked playing with the book. It is a great toy for the real gear head.

But from a practical stand point, I found the book to be more work then it was worth, for the most part.

Nice product though.

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I haven't found 3G3 yet. Is it available electronically, or just dead tree? How does it compare with FFS? I've used Gunsmith Calculator by - er, I forget. How does it compare with that?
I tend to use these things just to design a few of the more interesting weapons in my game - body pistols, for example.
I think the minimum action length in FFS is broken, though. It's a pet hate.
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3g3 is about as detailed as FF&S or GURPS Vehicles, but has different focuses.

The TL scale is similar, but in the main, about 2TL's difference (3g3 TL - 2 = Traveller TL).

3G3 is very tightly focused: personal scale arms only. It does lots of good stuff, and in converting from the Timelords/Spacetime stats, you will usually lose granularity. It does cover explosive propelled slugthrowers, guass/railguns, lasers, particle beams, and melee weapons.

I've used 3G3 in MT in the past. I've used it for 2300, too, and for CP2020. I've not used it for CORPS, but it converts to CORPS nicely.


It also highlights one issue of FF&S: Firearms propellants in Traveller stop at TL 12... while 3G3 allows extrapolating higher. (Comparing the FF&S and 3G3 numbers shows similar curves...)
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I just got my hands on 3G3 (Guns! Guns! Guns!) by BTRC.

Has anyone here tried it for Traveller weapons design? There are conversion rules for MT, TNE and T4.

The system seems quite smooth and realistic, but some actual user feedback would be nice...

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I have a copy stashed away somewhere but it doesn't cover CT/Striker so I don't use it.
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I have a copy stashed away somewhere but it doesn't cover CT/Striker so I don't use it.
Striker Pen is MT pen. All we need is a way to figure effective, long, and extreme ranges. And those would be the TNE short ranges x2, x4, and x8, I think.
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Sir William Hostman (OLDE 0512)
Sir William Hostman (DAGU 0622)
Knight of Deneb (REFT 2239)
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SEH w/Diamonds for Extreme Heroism - Battle of Boughene
MCG - Battle of Boughene
TAS: William Hostman (CORR 2506)
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Has anyone figured a conversion from 3G3 to Mongoose Traveller?
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