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Old August 14th, 2010, 09:47 AM
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I purchased starter Traveller from Drive thru RPG a while back when it was free. My question is what is missing from this set?
The title "Starter" Traveller would suggest that it is bare bones, but from looking at it the only thing I can see is that the charts are separate from the rules.
Also, is one set, LBB Book or Deluxe, better than another?
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Old August 14th, 2010, 01:43 PM
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Starter is 95% the same content as CT Bk 1-3 or The Traveller Book.
  • The Core rules are Bk 1-3. Two major editions; pre-1981 and post-1981 printings. Several iterations of difference in the pre-1981 rules; post 1981, it's CT2.0
  • Deluxe adds Bk0 and Adv 0, and the Marches Map. (Marches data is included in A0). Every Deluxe I've seen is post-1981
    CT2.0
  • The Traveller Book includes the post-1981 B1-3 content formatted for letter size, most of B0, two adventures (Exit Visa and Shadows), and the Regina Subsector.
    CT2.1 - some minor rules updates from the LBBs
  • Starter Traveller includes the post-1981 B1-3 content, again formatted for letter size, same chunks of Bk0 as TTB, but alters the ship combat system from minis on map to range bands. Inlcudes 2 adventures (Shadows and Mission on Mithril) (But the PDF might not include the actual adventures; the one on the CD doesn't, but both are in LBB format on the CD...)
    Rules are CT2.2 - some updates and corrections to both TTB and CT2 (post-1981)
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What Starter Traveller is missing is the Experience and Drugs chapters; what it contains that the others do not is the Range Band starship combat system.

I have all of them, but when RUNNING CT, Starter is my ruleset. I think it's the most cleanly edited CT ruleset.
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It also contains the pulse laser rules, Don...
Did you catch that the CDROm one is missing the adventures booklet?
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And the free PDF of Starter Traveller isn't OCR, which makes it particuarly difficult for me to organize, make notes, and tweak systems. (I think I have OCR PDFs of the LBB, and that makes that version a lot more useful to me.) I like to assemble "player's notes" with parts of the rules that my players need. That's harder to do if I have to re-type everything.

The material in the two versions does look pretty similar, however, in quick inspection.
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So really to have everything it would be best to have all versions?
I take it that Drivethru RPG has all the most up to date versions.
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Just get the $35 CT CD from farfuture.net (Marc Miller's site)... gives you Bk0-8, TTB, and Starter Traveller (except the adventures book), Adv0-12, Supp1-13, SplSup1-3, DA1-DA7, AM1-8, Snapshot*, AHL*, Striker, Invasion Earth**, Imperium**, Fifth Frontier War**, Dark Nebula**, Tarsus, Alien Realms, Beltstrike, Atlas of the Imperium

* playable game, just need to make the counters and maps, and integrates into RPG play.
** Rules can be used easily with a virtual board, but making the board and counters is gonna be a pain.
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I have heard there have been some issues with the CD having missing pages and poor type, have these issues been fixed?
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I've not noticed any missing pages; I got my CD this summer. Several are rotated wrong...
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Duke of the Third Imperium (SPIN 0534)
Count Terra (SOLO 1827)
Count Gorod (REFT 1302)
Count of the Third Imperium (SPIN 2232)
Viscount of Adabicci (SPIN 1824)
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Marquis of the Third Imperium (SPIN 2410)
Baron of the Third Imperium (SPIN 2231)
Knight of the Iridium Throne (CORE 1434)
Sir William Hostman (OLDE 0512)
Sir William Hostman (DAGU 0622)
Knight of Deneb (REFT 2239)
Knight of Deneb (Spin 2532)
SEH w/Diamonds for Extreme Heroism - Battle of Boughene
MCG - Battle of Boughene
TAS: William Hostman (CORR 2506)
TAS: Bearer (DAIB 1326)
IMTU ct+ tm++ tne tg-- tt+ tmo+ t4- t20+ to ru+ ge+ 3i+ c+ jt au ls pi+ ta he+ st+
Wil Hostman 0602 C539857-9 S A724
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You also get the added equipment in the adventures section that includes the laser pistol and the medikit, a couple of my favorite bits of personal gear.
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