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Old December 13th, 2010, 08:58 AM
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As Andrew notes, and Traveller repeatedly ignores, you can't fit 4tons inside 4tons

I've long taken the road Andrew did, but I would rate that container of his as 4tons, not 3tons. It doesn't actually hold 4tons of goods for shipping (just 3tons or so), but it requires 4tons of hold for shipping and that's what's important to the free-trader Captain. Scale up for other sizes. You have to allow clearances, and loose on packing.
And as I'm positive I've seen somewhere in the rules, 4 dT of goods are 4 dT of goods packed for shipping. The rules simply don't concern themselves much with the actual amount received by the receiver.

Also, X dT of cargo hold holds X dT of cargo. Clearances are the ship's architect's problem, not the players'.


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As Andrew notes, and Traveller repeatedly ignores, you can't fit 4tons inside 4tons
I always assumed that it was a measure of containers that fit within the ship cargo tonnage and not the exact amount of actual cargo.
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So what is Naarsirka?
Bollocks.

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So what is Naarsirka?

Is it some cheap outworld knock-off of a Megacorporation with a similar but not identical name?
No, that would be Naasirkaa.


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Just noticed your interlocking bit on the cargo containers in the picture.

Real life ones don't have this. They are flat to the ground and each other.

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Just noticed your interlocking bit on the cargo containers in the picture.

Real life ones don't have this. They are flat to the ground and each other.
These make more sense, I believe. Interlocking = easier to secure, of course.

Then again, getting all those companies across the Imperium (and beyond...) to follow the same pattern is a 'bit' of a challenge!
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This cargo must use magnets.

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Real life ones don't have this. They are flat to the ground and each other.
Modern (real) shipping containers have a set holes in the corners which are used to attach special fasteners that allow containers to be interlocked front/back, side/side, top/bottom. Trucks and trains utilise the same fasteners to lock the containers to a trailer/carriage.

However, I do think Andrew's version looks cooler than the real world stuff.
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Modern (real) shipping containers have a set holes in the corners which are used to attach special fasteners that allow containers to be interlocked front/back, side/side, top/bottom. Trucks and trains utilise the same fasteners to lock the containers to a trailer/carriage.

However, I do think Andrew's version looks cooler than the real world stuff.
Realworld locking points on containers are always female; the male connectors normally are used only top-to-bottom, to secure above-well stacks. In the wells, the containers are in rails (leaving a slight gap), and no lock pins are needed. It also allows using hooked chains or straps, or even iron bar stock, to lash them.

Most containers, however, are configured for side-to-side locking if needed; I've seen it done on a rail car with a pair of 2.25 TEU (45') containers... two side-by-side and pinned together, then chained down, on a flatbed rail car.
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