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Old November 7th, 2008, 12:15 PM
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Arrived in the post yesterday and this one appears to be a beauty. Much better artwork, writing certainly better than Mercenary, some very useful rules and expansions. Will go into it in depth asap but why couldn't Mercenary have been this good.

The Capital Ships look great and they have deck plans. Very exciting and brings renewed hope for the rest of the line.
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Wow. Has Mongoose actually produced a good book for Traveller?

More details, please.
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I saw the previews on the mongoose site and was excited by those.

If it's as good as they hint then I will definintely be getting it.
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I've seen the "layered" deck plan image, side by side with the traditional "birds-eye" deckplans, in two of their books now, and I have to say I love the context it provides.
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The deckplan stuff in the preview looks like it is B5 inspired.
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Ok I didn't read it yet but the PF Sloan looks odd... I prefer the old workhorse design.
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I've seen the "layered" deck plan image, side by side with the traditional "birds-eye" deckplans, in two of their books now, and I have to say I love the context it provides.
I'll admit, I do like the layered deck plan. Hope that becomes a staple.

Sure wish the art was better, though, ship designs and characters. I look through the old DGP stuff (like the MegaTraveller Journal and the Travellers Digest and the DGP supplements), and I marvel at the art in those books. They were black-n-white line drawings, too. But, for some reason, the quality has never been matched in a Traveller supplement.

Mongoose, if you're listening, check out the old DGP stuff. That was good art. Copy that style.
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Mongoose, if you're listening, check out the old DGP stuff. That was good art. Copy that style.
You're confusing taste with quality, sir. The new art in High Guard is for the most part of a technical aptitude akin to that which I've seen in DGP products, but the stylings are different, is all. Personally, I'd sometimes like to see a bit more texture but it's not artistic competence that is lacking.

Will agree though that the P.F. Sloan is somewhat indistinct in shape, as in, I can't tell which way it's going.
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I'll admit, I do like the layered deck plan. Hope that becomes a staple.

Sure wish the art was better, though, ship designs and characters. I look through the old DGP stuff (like the MegaTraveller Journal and the Travellers Digest and the DGP supplements), and I marvel at the art in those books. They were black-n-white line drawings, too. But, for some reason, the quality has never been matched in a Traveller supplement.

Mongoose, if you're listening, check out the old DGP stuff. That was good art. Copy that style.
If you are referring to the Blair Reynolds stuff...that will never be copied again. Parts of Mongoose really come close. I rather liked how Mercenary was presented and eagerly await High Guard. Having tone and depth. If I would suggest they follow anyone it would have to be HDI's Fading Suns (Red Brick stuff still needs some work...but then again it was Bridges' own art that made FS great). NB: Not the covers of Fading Suns products but the insides...the covers nearly turned me off the entire game line.
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3d layered view is fine for concept if you have a decent floorplan for gaming. Otherwise, its unfortunate if its used to replace doing all the 2d calculations. Numerous 2d classic traveller designs required excessive work.

Perhaps I'm mislead by the preview and Mongoose should have just put an entire ship in one. 3d, 2d and specs as there example.
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