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Old August 11th, 2015, 03:35 AM
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If its not public, and SJ Games hasn't said anything, I'd guess they don't have a deal yet. I'm sure JTAS is worth a bundle and big piles of money usually need a lot of talking about. Everybody seems to want to make sure that material stays available - which is probably the "happy".

And if Mr. Miller wants to sell GURPS material, the other products in the line aside from JTAS, he's going to need a license. Unless they negotiated THAT particular chestnut back in '98 or whenever. Hopefully they didn't put that off until "later" and suddenly its a big problem in their laps.
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Yep, they will probably only allow moot members to buy them too.
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If its not public, and SJ Games hasn't said anything, I'd guess they don't have a deal yet.
I can appreciate the need to keep things secret during negotiations. But the CotI Moot is hardly a private venue. It's a public venue with a pay wall. Or am I wrong? Does the pay wall make a legal difference? I don't know enough about the relevant law to say for sure, but it would surprise me to learn that there's a good sound legal reason (as opposed to whatever social reasons there may be) to tell the paying public but not us freeloaders.


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If its not public, and SJ Games hasn't said anything, I'd guess they don't have a deal yet. I'm sure JTAS is worth a bundle and big piles of money usually need a lot of talking about. Everybody seems to want to make sure that material stays available - which is probably the "happy".

And if Mr. Miller wants to sell GURPS material, the other products in the line aside from JTAS, he's going to need a license. Unless they negotiated THAT particular chestnut back in '98 or whenever. Hopefully they didn't put that off until "later" and suddenly its a big problem in their laps.
Marc and Steve are working out the implementation details prior to the public announcement.

Hans has objected to moot membership being required for anything in the past... we just politely ignore his grumbling about it, and point out that it's what pays the bills and keeps COTI online.

The primary benefit of Moot Membership is keeping COTI alive, as well as FarFuture.net (Same server). COTI's a significant portion of the server usage. Marc could go a lot cheaper if it weren't for the expensive pet project, COTI.

The secondary benefit set, is the Audience Hall, increased Private Messages space, and the ability to use custom avatars, host Play-by-post in a semi-private subforum, have a COTI blog...

The tertiary is the title on the board, the noble card in the mail, and a few other occasional things.

In this case, Marc's rewarding the people who pay to keep him by, every couple weeks, posting something in the audience hall. Sometimes, it's "Hey, influence me about this proposed bit of canon"... Sometimes, it's "Hey, I'm in negotiations with ___ about ___, so we can do ___"

Soon as the plans are finalized, Marc will have Don, Robject, or I make the announcement in the TAS News Forum, and I'm certain SJG will announce it as well.

FYI: The GURPS Traveller license actually expired 31 Dec 2014, and was handshake-deal extended to 31 Dec 2015. Marc and Steve are hashing out the niggling details. Once the actual final details are done, it will be announced in a BIG way. As in, once I find them out, I'll be putting an announcement that will show up in EVERY COTI forum until you've read it.
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Hans has objected to moot membership being required for anything in the past... we just politely ignore his grumbling about it, and point out that it's what pays the bills and keeps COTI online.
That's incorrect. I've complained about Moot membership being required in one or two specific cases where I thought it inappropriate. Not about it being required for anything at all. IIRC it's mostly been about Moot members posting something in the Moot area and then referring to that in the public forums, which I think is a rude thing to do.

Just as posting an announcement about a subject that is of general interest to everybody in an area restricted to some seems rude.

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The primary benefit of Moot Membership is keeping COTI alive, as well as FarFuture.net (Same server). COTI's a significant portion of the server usage. Marc could go a lot cheaper if it weren't for the expensive pet project, COTI.

The secondary benefit set, is the Audience Hall, increased Private Messages space, and the ability to use custom avatars, host Play-by-post in a semi-private subforum, have a COTI blog...

The tertiary is the title on the board, the noble card in the mail, and a few other occasional things.
And none of this have I ever complained about. I'm fine with the people who support CotI getting special privileges. They deserve it.

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In this case, Marc's rewarding the people who pay to keep him by, every couple weeks, posting something in the audience hall. Sometimes, it's "Hey, influence me about this proposed bit of canon"... Sometimes, it's "Hey, I'm in negotiations with ___ about ___, so we can do ___"
Being excluded from discussion of canon does annoy me, that's true. I don't think I've complained about it, but I may have. It doesn't seem cost-effective to restrict that to the Moot, but perhaps it is.


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That is certainly a good argument to join the Moot. I didn't realize it was as public as it apparently is. Or the level of access.
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