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Old August 17th, 2016, 03:30 PM
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Then I don't understand their commercial strategy.

By doing so, they risk alienating a part of old die-hards, while the newbees don't care about the name...
I don't work for Mongoose, but I do believe in one of Marc Miller's Traveller assumptions
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Everyone votes with their pocketbook. Mr. Sprange caters to the pocketbook. He has an idea "Traveller is like this" and is vindicated with more pocketbooks, perhaps younger pocketbooks, agreeing. If not, he would have to change or sell something besides Traveller, yes?
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All he they had to do was not call this Azhanti High Lightning. They could have named it anything, but no. It would have been better if they had named it something else, then we'd have something new. We already have an AHL, why do we need another?
I'm gonna call that deckplan the Mongoose class cruiser
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If not, he would have to change or sell something besides Traveller, yes?
He'd still owe Marc a certain chunk for the duration of the license.
Possibly more than he'd lose for producing crap.
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As long as the fans like Mongoose Traveller, there won't be a "problem" for anyone ... except Marc and us grognards. So in a sense it is indeed Mongoose which is re-framing the Traveller brand.
So is Marc ok with Mongoose completely re-writing the OTU while he writes novels that contradict it?
Or vise versa.
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So is Marc ok with Mongoose completely re-writing the OTU while he writes novels that contradict it?
Or vise versa.
But is he really doing that? Granted, the AHL deck plans are different and it would have avoided a lot of angst if they just did something as simple as calling it "Mark II", but that isn't a complete rewrite of the OTU.

I know that HG2 has a lot of new stuff in it for higher tech levels ranging from Anti-Matter power plants (TL20), Thrust 11 M-Drives (TL17), Jump-9 (TL18), and a variety of weapons and shields above TL16. And looking at the Tech Level tables in T5 it seems that what Mongoose has published is pretty much aligned with that. And if I recall, the original LBBs and the Core Rulebooks for MgT1, and T5 were all meant to be "setting agnostic."

Of course, he could go and realy muck things up with the 3I sourcebook, but I guess we will have to wait and see.
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But is he really doing that? Granted, the AHL deck plans are different and it would have avoided a lot of angst if they just did something as simple as calling it "Mark II", but that isn't a complete rewrite of the OTU.

I know that HG2 has a lot of new stuff in it for higher tech levels ranging from Anti-Matter power plants (TL20), Thrust 11 M-Drives (TL17), Jump-9 (TL18), and a variety of weapons and shields above TL16. And looking at the Tech Level tables in T5 it seems that what Mongoose has published is pretty much aligned with that. And if I recall, the original LBBs and the Core Rulebooks for MgT1, and T5 were all meant to be "setting agnostic."

Of course, he could go and realy muck things up with the 3I sourcebook, but I guess we will have to wait and see.
What I saw in the draft didn't all line up with T5, FWIW.
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What I saw in the draft didn't all line up with T5, FWIW.
I'm not saying they line up perfectly, mainly because what I saw in the T5 book is more generalized, but I don't think it is all that much out of whack as far as the tech levels go.
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'Ion' cannon TL12 - no similar weapon system exists in the OTU or in T5; and once again this weapon system has nothing to do with ions.

Tachyon cannon TL14 - WTF?

Jumpbreaker missile warhead - TL13

All presented in the book as standard components with no contra-indication for the OTU.

Then there are the ridiculous dogfighting rules...
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I'm starting to see non-grognard blowback on Google Plus and RPGGeek. Especially when it's mentioned that Matthew didn't get the SW license... but made a big deal about hinting at who did get it. Before FFG was even allowed to admit they had.
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