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Old September 16th, 2010, 03:32 PM
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Default Refitted X-Boats - VW Beetles in Traveller

I've always had a liking for refitting stock design starships, those that have been decommissioned-mothballed after serving in naval or scout fleets or other services.

In particular the X-boat has shown the most potential for such treatment, given as is it's only a long-legged jump-4/maneuver-0 craft in it's factory delivered form, definitely such is not an impossible challenge to overcome.

The most expedient and cost-efficient solution to the maneuver-0 issue is mating 100 ton annular 'wing' service section to the existing hull, this 'wing' structure to contain the necessary m-drives and additional fuel tankage and other support systems in a fully streamlined package complete with integral fuel scoops.

A few changes made to the former X-boat itself to be reborn as a complete starship are a given, the most obvious is the lack of hardpoints which should be an easy enough task in itself to correct, more involved work would be the addition of deployable landing 'struts' and reallocating the space left from the now-vacant data banks of decks 3 and 4 to other needs.

Mind addition of said service section reduces the newly configured vessel to a jump-2 capacity.

Not a bad compromise in performance since the craft now can refuel by means of fuel-skimming gas giants or dipping into the oceans of water worlds.


The above all said, the newly packaged former X-boat could operate in may different capacities, personal yacht, safari ship, packet courier, etc. Applications generally limited to those of a typical starship of 200 tons and always exceptions to said 'rule' are possible.
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Interesting possibility. However, I think it would be cheaper to just get an old Type S and rearrange the inside.
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Interesting possibility. However, I think it would be cheaper to just get an old Type S and rearrange the inside.

Thank you for the kind comment, I'm quite fond of the 100 ton Type S scout/couriers as well the possibilities with such for refits and the like, I have tinkered with a few variants IMTU with varying results.

I was just looking at refitted X-boats in particular as a possible 'overlooked' resource for additional texture and color to add to the campaigns of others.
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Hmm, not a bad idea at all. Whilst I'm not sure of the package you have (streamlined, etc) the concept of using Scout surplus x-boats is excellant.

I can picture already some retired Scout/Engineer welding an M & PP drives onto the rear, wiring it into the existing fuel capacity and knocking up a cradle for a 10 ton fuel/cargo shuttle. Unstreamlined of course and ugly as hell and guaranteed to get safety inspected at every major starport.

But it'd be interesting!
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One of the things that I retro fitted some old X-boats into were as drop assualt craft.

Gutted the inside, placed on plated armor on the inside, gave a short duration M drive and placed anti tank/anti personnel weapons in the turret.

Just like a teardrop falling on to the planet.

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Hmm, not a bad idea at all. Whilst I'm not sure of the package you have (streamlined, etc) the concept of using Scout surplus x-boats is excellant. .....But it'd be interesting!
I'm seeing different packages offered for the additional ring-shaped hull, such varying in their available 'options' to appeal to a vast market of buyers.

As you mentioned there would be those interested in utility and work-applicable features, perhaps Seeker-Miner packages to include deployable robot arms cable of both brute and fine labors, dedicated laser-plasma drilling and cutting 'mini-turrets' and of course the litany of supporting systems needed by any skilled prospector.

A variant of the above would be slanted towards salvage and recovery operations of disabled-abandoned starships and space-going vessels.
That might also include a sort of EMT crewed emergency response craft, onboard triage-trauma facility and short-term cold-sleep berths for casualties needing advanced treatment.

I tagged the concept as VW Beetles of Traveller as such a myriad of the classic Bugs have been seen in so many different jobs and applications it just made sense.
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Thank you for the kind comment, I'm quite fond of the 100 ton Type S scout/couriers as well the possibilities with such for refits and the like, I have tinkered with a few variants IMTU with varying results.

I was just looking at refitted X-boats in particular as a possible 'overlooked' resource for additional texture and color to add to the campaigns of others.
I can't believe that they didn't base the X-boat on the Type S in the first place.

It should be far easier and cheaper to build, operate and maintain the X-boat network if they had.

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I can't believe that they didn't base the X-boat on the Type S in the first place.

It should be far easier and cheaper to build, operate and maintain the X-boat network if they had.
It's a legacy problem. The design worked according to 1st edition Book 2 (at least, I assume it worked; I've never actually checked it out) and the only way to achieve jump-4 with a 100T ship was by leaving out the maneuver drive. When they changed the rules to 2nd edition Book 2, the design became illegal (I think), but instead of retconning the design, they ignored it. With High Guard the problem became that now there was plenty of room for a maneuver drive, but they still didn't want to retcon the original concept.

Perhaps they felt the 'no maneuver drive' concept was too damn cool to lose.

Anyway, long story short, we're all requested and required by TPTB to ignore the metaphorical elefants in the room playing tag with each other when we contemplate the X-boats.


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It's a legacy problem...

Perhaps they felt the 'no maneuver drive' concept was too damn cool to lose.
IIRC the concept comes from some bit of influential fiction, though just what it was escapes me at the moment.

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Anyway, long story short, we're all requested and required by TPTB to ignore the metaphorical elefants in the room playing tag with each other when we contemplate the X-boats.
...among other things

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I think the ideas here (200t bolted-on J2 design and the 100t assault/drop capsule) are creative, fun, and in the spirit of Traveller. Great job!
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