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Old August 18th, 2013, 10:23 AM
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Question I notice a distinct lack of Bots and Droids

Looking for a listing of robots and androids to use in my campaign.

I see the generation tables for these usefull things.... but little discussion on them or details / pictures to liven up the NPC personality pool.

Did I miss the thread?



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There are only a few robots listed in the Mongoose Core Rules and no firm rules in the Core Book. Robots in MgT are in Book 9: Robot.

Robots not being in most of the books is deliberate. Traveller is geared towards a science fiction style where "living beings" are the doers and robots are merely tools. This is reinforced in a rules standpoint. Aware robots are developed around TL 12, with true free thinking Artificial Intelligence set at around TL 17. Robot books been written in the past have followed these generalizations.
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Aware robots are developed around TL 12, with true free thinking Artificial Intelligence set at around TL 17. Robot books been written in the past have followed these generalizations.
Actually, self awareness is way above TL 12. A "CP3O" is beyond current Imp. TL
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Nah, C3PO is perfectly doable at TL12 as per LBB:8

There is a big difference between artificial intelligence and artificial sentience and selw awareness.

The robots of Star Wars are not sentient.
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Actually, self awareness is way above TL 12. A "CP3O" is beyond current Imp. TL
True AI is TL16, to be specific.

High autonomous with emotion simulation is TL14 or so.
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In fact, AI and self aware computers/robots were listed as TL 17 in page 86-87 table in CT:TTB and in tables in pages 28-29 in MT:RC.
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You can't be specific. DGP made a right mess of LBB:8 with contradictions all over the place.

Page 5 tells us that crude AI begins at TL11, the Robot Brains chapter tells us its TL16 an the construction tables put it at TL17.

According to the history table in MT Terran officers ha AI robot assistants during the later Interstellar Wars era - repeated in LBB:8.

What is needed is the distinction between AI and self awareness/sentience.
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Apparently according to the latest science Traveller may have to rewrite its bot-books yet again. I saw some news snippits where integration of data and emotion is programmed, but also an "organic product" (so to speak) by letting the AI draw on its experience for a proper response. Again, if we're doing it now, then what's in store at TL12?
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Nah, C3PO is perfectly doable at TL12 as per LBB:8
Nope. Minimum TL 16 for him as he is self aware.
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Traveller has never really been consistent with "the latest science"; why expect that to change?

If you want YTU to be consistent with "the latest science", house-rule away and never violate the Prime Rule: Have Fun!
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