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My take on it is that the Ancients bio-engineered all transplanted races with advanced immune systems so diseases just didn't affect them.

This includes the bio-engineered humans left on earth.

Problem is the diseases of earth then get a couple of hundred thousand years to evolve strains that start affecting humans again. The humans of earth evolve immune systems that can cope, the Vilani just don't have this evolutionary advantage since they are encountering different pathogens.

Notice that in the Zho alien module it actually explains that the originally transplanted bio-engineered humans from earth evolved into two species until eventually a third hybrid became dominant.

The vilani must have undergone similar evolutionary changes - unless bio-engineered not to.
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As an alternative:

Contact between the French ( or whomever makes sense) and the Vilani at Barnard's Star ( or wherever makes sense).

Developments as you like.

Interstellar Wars flare up.

And then the Plague or Duskir hits the Earthmen. After all, who are the isolated natives that lack previous exposure to multiple diseases carried by men on vessels from far away?
The Vilani have contacted numerous human races and visited many worlds.
They have likely been dealing with alien diseases for millennia.

So the Earthmen get hit by Denebian Pertussis or Antarean Fever or what have you.


The Vilani win the Interstellar Wars and occupy Earth along with several of its colonies.
The Vilani bureaucrats, backed by soldiers, stop the pandemics through a program of compulsory vaccination and other treatment. Mortality drops.


Some Earthmen emigrate to the independent colonies. Many accept the new regime.
Others make their way out to the alien stars, exploring, trading, and fighting.

The Vargr, Kafers, and others races may pose threats to the victorious Ziru Sirka.
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As an alternative:

Contact between the French ( or whomever makes sense) and the Vilani at Barnard's Star ( or wherever makes sense).

Developments as you like.

Interstellar Wars flare up.

And then the Plague or Duskir hits the Earthmen. After all, who are the isolated natives that lack previous exposure to multiple diseases carried by men on vessels from far away?
The Vilani have contacted numerous human races and visited many worlds.
They have likely been dealing with alien diseases for millennia.

So the Earthmen get hit by Denebian Pertussis or Antarean Fever or what have you.


The Vilani win the Interstellar Wars and occupy Earth along with several of its colonies.
The Vilani bureaucrats, backed by soldiers, stop the pandemics through a program of compulsory vaccination and other treatment. Mortality drops.


Some Earthmen emigrate to the independent colonies. Many accept the new regime.
Others make their way out to the alien stars, exploring, trading, and fighting.

The Vargr, Kafers, and others races may pose threats to the victorious Ziru Sirka.
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In a 2300 vs Vilani scenario, I imagine gravitics would give the Vilani advantages until the Earthmen managed to obtain the tech by espionage or salvage and reverse engineering.
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I am glad you find it so.

Another thing to consider with a 2300 scenario: Earth has rival nation states instead of a global federation.

It seems possible that one of the Earth based star faring nations might try to remain neutral, or even make an alliance with the Ziru Sirka.

Forgive me if I have duplicated something already dealt with upthread.
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Hmm, the Vilani means that at some point WE become the Solomani....
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I suspect a little of each.

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In the years between the wars traders from Earth just bought advanced technology from Vilani worlds. They sent students to technical colleges and universities on Vilani worlds.

I have a pet theory that the espionage they conducted included breaking into the forbidden technology archives, which is why the Terrans were able to leap ahead of the Vilani technology wise - jump 3, meson guns, AI robots...
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In the years between the wars traders from Earth just bought advanced technology from Vilani worlds. They sent students to technical colleges and universities on Vilani worlds.

I have a pet theory that the espionage they conducted included breaking into the forbidden technology archives, which is why the Terrans were able to leap ahead of the Vilani technology wise - jump 3, meson guns, AI robots...
I think that makes good sense if you want to preserve the idea of Earthmen beating the Space Empire through superior pluck and cleverness.
This is a fun, classic sci fi theme.

I prefer the Ziru Sirka conquering Earth. But that's classic stuff, too.

In any case, I like this idea of a 2300 + OTU mashup.
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My take on it is that the Ancients bio-engineered all transplanted races with advanced immune systems so diseases just didn't affect them.
In GURPS Interstellar War, diseases caught from Terrans was a very big source of death in the Vilani Empire according to the source book. So while the bio-engineering might be a great idea, it couldbe that the transplanted human races just didn't experience the native biome so there were a limited number of diseases they'd be susceptible to.

But what you are doing is plausible as well, I never viewed GURPS as being Canon, and of course a 2300AD-Vilani crossover isn't Canon either so have at it! :-)
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