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In most places it is a coffee outlet. Or am I thinking of Covfefe??
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It is what it is.

I actually can spell, and starbux is the end result of a protracted evolution of when I got sick of reusing the word credit, that started of with the French Crédit Impériale, got simplified to bucks, contracted to bux, and when I was looking at a split tailed mermaid and remembering the Revisisioned Series, came up with starbux.
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It is what it is.

I actually can spell, and starbux is the end result of a protracted evolution of when I got sick of reusing the word credit, that started of with the French Crédit Impériale, got simplified to bucks, contracted to bux, and when I was looking at a split tailed mermaid and remembering the Revisisioned Series, came up with starbux.
It's clever. I'd wondered perhaps if T5 was using a new word for the moolah.
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Generally speaking, an entrepreneur will open up a factory locally, if demand is large enough and transport costs prohibitive.
That's usually a function of labour costs, and those are generally cheaper away from the market for the product. You can of course get situations where a factory is established when labour is cheap, and as living standards rise it remains profitable to keep the manufacturing local for a while. But eventually consumers will push out manufacturing.

A local factory also needs a supporting high-tech industry within a reasonable distance to provide the parts. If you're shipping the parts, you can still have local assembly.
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Considered that one once. Triggered a discussion where people pointed out that new tech was often less expensive than older tech, this computer I'm typing on being an example.



Damn, forgot to mention that detail. That was an important point. Yes, we're also using the reduced cost standard hull where needed to reduce costs further. Thanks for reminding me.

I'm of two minds there. Option one is simplest: we rationalize it by saying we're recycling old hulls, pulling out all the innards and build the new ship inside of them. Ships whose designs are old enough and common enough that they show up in significant numbers for recycle serve as the basis for cut-rate hulls. I figured when Striker threw tank-armor hulls at me, I could make a bit of lemonade out of it by riding that for the standard hull rule.

Option 2 is a bit more complicated in that I'd need to adjust the Book-5 combat rules a bit, but it allows me to integrate Book 2 features a bit more effectively: the so-called "standard" hull is a seriously cheap hull adequate for space flight but not intended for combat. Canon descriptions of entry through the hull have you cutting through a hull of the same thickness as the inner bulkheads. I think we argued at one time for that to be equivalent to something like an inch thick steel. Book 2 combat made this the stuff that missiles could do multiple hits to, thin enough that power plant and jump drive hits are a possibility. So, the hull is a metal plate faced with ceramic heat tiles, mounted on a structure of girdering and backed with a thick section of a lightweight radiation-absorbing plastic, atop another metal plate, the whole sufficient to stop radiation and most micrometeor hits but no more difficult to penetrate than the typical bulkhead when attacked with personal energy weapons. Space combat weapons striking a ship equipped with a "standard" hull do not receive the +6 damage DM when using the High Guard combat rules and, in the unlikely event a "standard hull" comes under fire by a weapon with a rating of A+ (i.e. spinal mounts), that weapon receives a -6 to the damage roll (which means more than half the time the result will be a critical). And, no, they are not as hardy as the ships described in Adventure 12, Secret of the Ancients; they aren't intended for operations in deep water or deep in a gas giant atmosphere.
From what I can tell, there couldn't possibly have been any LBB2:'81 ships that used the standard hulls by default other than the Type S and Free Trader.

Aside from those two hulls, none of the standard hulls' drive bays exactly match any viable combination of LBB2 starship drives. (The 400Td one exactly fits for a 5G non-starship, but that's about it.)
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Law of unintended consequence.

When they changed the power plant requirement to match the jump drive or m-drive whichever is larger the 400t standard hull no longer has a drive bay compatible with the drive tonnages that used to fit - eg 77 edition you can have a m1 jump 3 400t or a m3 jump 1.
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Law of unintended consequence.

When they changed the power plant requirement to match the jump drive or m-drive whichever is larger the 400t standard hull no longer has a drive bay compatible with the drive tonnages that used to fit - eg 77 edition you can have a m1 jump 3 400t or a m3 jump 1.
Ok, so it was valid in first edition but they didn't change it at all between editions?
I don't have a copy of '77 but the drive bays for 100 to 1000 are sized as follows in '81:
15,15,50,85,165,165. Is this the same as in '77?
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I don't have a copy of '77 but the drive bays for 100 to 1000 are sized as follows in '81:
15,15,50,85,165,165. Is this the same as in '77?
The '77 LBB2 has 15, 15, 50, 80, 165, 165, so one change for the 600-ton hull.

BTW, if you have the older CT-CD ROM without the '77 LBBs, you can ask Marc to send you an updated one. That's how I got mine.
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The '77 LBB2 has 15, 15, 50, 80, 165, 165, so one change for the 600-ton hull.

BTW, if you have the older CT-CD ROM without the '77 LBBs, you can ask Marc to send you an updated one. That's how I got mine.
Got the classic pdfs (2nd ed) with the T5 hardcopy kickstarter on a thumbdrive. No 1st ed. Might ask about it, but no real hurry on that.

Oh, that change for the 600Td hull makes the Type M Subsidized Liner work at its J3 1G, where it wouldn't have under the '77 size. It is, contrary to what I said before (table lookup mistake), an exact fit.

Which makes the failure to change the 400Td hull to align with the Type R Subsidized Merchant somewhat surprising.
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