Traveller Store CotI Features New Posts Mark Forums Read Register


Go Back TravellerRPG.com > Citizens of the Imperium > General Traveller Discussions > Software Solutions

Software Solutions Discussions on Traveller related software.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old September 9th, 2017, 04:21 PM
ShawnDriscoll's Avatar
ShawnDriscoll ShawnDriscoll is offline
Citizen: SOC-13
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 933
Gallery : 0
ShawnDriscoll Citizen+ShawnDriscoll Citizen+
Default Travellermap and CSV?

Is Travellermap and CSV a thing? Can CSV be imported/exported with it?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old September 9th, 2017, 05:21 PM
Nathan Brazil's Avatar
Nathan Brazil Nathan Brazil is offline
Citizen: SOC-14
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,162
Gallery : 0
Nathan Brazil Citizen+Nathan Brazil Citizen+
Default

inexorabletash is the master cartogrphapher, so he is the man with the plan. I have compiled the Rebellion and 1248 data.

So, not as directly downloadable .CSV file but you can get the data three ways.

You get the sector data from the menu on the lefthanded side search menu. Type in the name of the sector and click on the selection "Raw Data"

You can use the Poster Maker - The Traveller Map to retreive a sector. Once selected, you copy and paste the data. It is column delimited.

Check the section API - The Traveller Map for other ways to retreive data.

The things to note are "canonicity" status, credited data source, and original UWP data format. Many in 1105 are not "official" as they have not gone thru the rigorous examination, reformat to T5, and approval by the powers that be. All outside the 1105 are in this status for lack of approval, if for no other reason. You can see the status at the bottom of a sector when highlighted.
__________________
"I am bound by canon" - Marc W Miller at Gamerhole Con 2016
IMTU tc+ tm tn++ t4+ tg t20++ ru ge++ 3i+ c+ jt-- au- ls pi+ ta he+ hi++ as va ith-- vr+ ne- so+
Nathan Brazil 0401 X55A670-A S he+ hi++ as va ith-- vr+ ne- so+ 733
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old September 9th, 2017, 07:11 PM
tjoneslo tjoneslo is offline
Citizen: SOC-14
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Ferrisburgh, VT, USA
Posts: 2,966
Gallery : 2
Visit tjoneslo's Blog
tjoneslo Citizen+tjoneslo Citizen+tjoneslo Citizen+
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnDriscoll View Post
Is Travellermap and CSV a thing? Can CSV be imported/exported with it?
What exactly are you interested in doing with the CSV data?

Probably the closest you will get is a Tab Delimited format:

https://travellermap.com/doc/api#sec...a-for-a-sector

https://travellermap.com/doc/fileformats#t5tab

Excel will, for example, be more than happy to read and correctly layout a tab separated file.
__________________
Archduke of the Solomani Rim - Terra (Solomani Rim 1827)
Duke Akumid - Akumid (Vland 1628)
Marquis Yeremyh - Yeremyh (Solomani Rim 1804)
Marquis Hysyl - Hysyl (Deneb 2425)
Baron Regina - Regina (Spinward Marches 1910)
TAS member - Vipan (Empty Quarter 1038)
Be part of the history of Traveller:

https://wiki.travellerrpg.com/Main_Page
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old September 9th, 2017, 07:45 PM
ShawnDriscoll's Avatar
ShawnDriscoll ShawnDriscoll is offline
Citizen: SOC-13
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 933
Gallery : 0
ShawnDriscoll Citizen+ShawnDriscoll Citizen+
Default

I've used the TABbed SEC format forever. Just recently started doing CSV on my own for all my traveller files. More versatile, does not introduce more bugs to code when reading/writing an CSV, and doesn't need its files to look pretty for human reading. I have apps that can read them and display them in whatever fashion I need.

I use CSVs to save my characters and worlds in. Have some videos about it, while I'm trying things out.

Last edited by ShawnDriscoll; September 10th, 2017 at 04:11 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old September 9th, 2017, 08:25 PM
inexorabletash's Avatar
inexorabletash inexorabletash is offline
Citizen: SOC-14
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 1,049
Gallery : 1
inexorabletash has disabled reputation
Default

Tab delimited is as close as there is. Should be easy to convert back and forth with Excel or Google Sheets, etc. They can import tab-delimited and output CSV.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old September 10th, 2017, 01:29 PM
coliver988's Avatar
coliver988 coliver988 is offline
Baron
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Asheville
Posts: 1,749
Gallery : 110
Visit coliver988's Blog
coliver988 Citizen++coliver988 Citizen++coliver988 Citizen++coliver988 Citizen++
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by inexorabletash View Post
Tab delimited is as close as there is. Should be easy to convert back and forth with Excel or Google Sheets, etc. They can import tab-delimited and output CSV.
Or depending on how you import them and which language, just substitute tabs for commas. All the languages I've ever dealt with (including all scripting languages) have replace/substitute/pattern matching built in.

I'm not a fan of CSV particularly, but then I've had to import address, patient, phone switch and all sorts of data that may have commas in there. But then I am also old school and used fixed width and implied decimal files (may COBOL never die ) HL7 uses the vertical bar, then the carrot (|, ^) to mark fields, and repetitions within fields.

Currently I am using the TravellerMap API in a UWP program. Took the JSON, auto-generated a class, and the import works like magic. Gotta love a good serializer! (I was, and still vaguely am, sort of hoping to get this at least attempted to the Windows store before end of year. I have serious doubts about that actually happening, but hey, its still fun to play. Of course, it is also a remake of a program I wrote almost 10 years ago, but that used XML as the back end storage, and now I'm using SqlLite just because it seemed more interesting. And I actually sort of like XAML)
__________________
Mostly lurking about...CT is still my favorite with T5 as a neat tool box to plunder.


Duke of The Solomani RimLANGELOS A4249A6-FLangelos Write Up Alpha
Baron, IpkurIpkur C564543-9Ipkur Write Up Alpha
Knight of the Third Imperium [x2]Rhylanor A434934-FIkuna E000410-A
MCG For Conspicuous GallantryThe Assault On Alellhttps://github.com/COliver988/Traveller
Travellers Aid Society 2798Dudid B510526-9http://traveller-ct.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Travellermap.com Blue Ghost Imperial Interstellar Scout Service 14 May 28th, 2017 04:23 PM
TL changes to travellermap for T5 savage Traveller 5 49 February 19th, 2016 02:25 PM
Travellermap.com down? Gray Lensman The Lone Star 24 September 22nd, 2015 04:03 PM
TravellerMap BillDowns The Lone Star 22 April 3rd, 2015 09:12 PM
www.travellermap.com Blue Ghost Imperial Interstellar Scout Service 3 March 5th, 2012 06:26 PM

This website and its contents are copyright ©2010- Far Future Enterprises. All rights reserved. Traveller is a registered trademark of Far Future Enterprises .
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright (c) 2010-2013, Far Future Enterprises. All Rights Reserved.