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I don't want to make this about T5, but as I understand it T5 also provides technological and other setting options not appropriate to the OTU. How does it handle this sort of delineation, for comparison?

Traveller has always been a toolkit for creating your own setting, as well as supporting the OTU.

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Quite the opposite - T5 is the definitive guide to the OTU, Marc's novel uses quite a lot of the new stuff and will probably use more as the sequels come along.
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Quite the opposite - T5 is the definitive guide to the OTU, Marc's novel uses quite a lot of the new stuff and will probably use more as the sequels come along.
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And OTU material, especially sourcebooks, now have to explicitly state what's kosher and what isn't.

Upon reflection, since the core rulebook is still Traveller, the non-Traveller material should have been labelled.

When Matt finally drops the Traveller name from the core rules, then all bets are off.
MgT High Guard second edition opens with a section about the Third Imperium and its navy, it then fails to mention that many of the weapon options in the ship building rules are not available in the OTU. Some that are are hidden is later chapters as high technology options.

The 1105+ era is being re-written by Mongoose.
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All he they had to do was not call this Azhanti High Lightning. They could have named it anything, but no. It would have been better if they had named it something else, then we'd have something new. We already have an AHL, why do we need another?
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Quite the opposite - T5 is the definitive guide to the OTU, Marc's novel uses quite a lot of the new stuff and will probably use more as the sequels come along.
Mike is quite right. There is "not yet" technology detailed further than most of the other Traveller rulebooks, but it's not adding things not intended for the OTU. There are no tachyon cannons, no transporters, no light sabers, no warp drive. There's not even stuff from other GDW games (no stutterwarp).
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All he they had to do was not call this Azhanti High Lightning. They could have named it anything, but no. It would have been better if they had named it something else, then we'd have something new. We already have an AHL, why do we need another?
So true. But that's not how Mongoose operates.
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All he they had to do was not call this Azhanti High Lightning. They could have named it anything, but no. It would have been better if they had named it something else, then we'd have something new. We already have an AHL, why do we need another?
So true. But that's not how Mongoose operates.
Then I don't understand their commercial strategy.

By doing so, they risk alienating a part of old die-hards, while the newbees don't care about the name...
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Then I don't understand their commercial strategy.

By doing so, they risk alienating a part of old die-hards, while the newbees don't care about the name...
There's a middle ground who don't know better, but will recognize the name from a little research.

Plus, there's the issue of, "too late to fix it now."

And, "The retailer's the one to take it in the shorts on returns." Mostly because the publisher has already been paid before the retailer ever sees product. In the games industry, there's no compulsory buyback from distribution of unsold product. Unlike the fiction and comics markets.
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There's a middle ground who don't know better, but will recognize the name from a little research.
SUre, but I guess most of them would have not cared if the name had been another one

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Plus, there's the issue of, "too late to fix it now."
But not too late not to make similarmistakes latter...

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And, "The retailer's the one to take it in the shorts on returns." Mostly because the publisher has already been paid before the retailer ever sees product. In the games industry, there's no compulsory buyback from distribution of unsold product. Unlike the fiction and comics markets.
But if a product does not sell, the retailers won't buy the next one related to it...

That's akin of what I told about T4:
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My (not really educated) guess is that MT sold well in Barcelona, and when TNE appeared, shops were ready to invest on it. I guess it was a true fiasco, as most of Barcelona gaming groups and fans were in the torches and pitchforks side (yes, incluiding myself). So, again my guess, when T4 appeared, most shops showed little interest in investing on its products, and few of them reached those shops.
Such decisions are what might enlarge the torches and pithforks teams...

And I'm not sure about what percentage of its sales is on retail and what in direct electronic selling, that may well be affected by this and the oppinions given by people...

It's hard to build a good reputation and a fan base, not too hard to lose it...
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As long as the fans like Mongoose Traveller, there won't be a "problem" for anyone ... except, potentially, grognards. So in a sense it is indeed Mongoose which is re-framing the Traveller brand.
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