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coliver988 January 20th, 2011 09:03 PM

Just a quick note - first, love that you are working on Universe 2.

After a year of being tech support due to getting laid off from my previous dev job, I'm back in development. Windows, and using WPF & ORM. The ORM is what is cool: it does 90% of the DB I/O for you after you set the model up. I managed to get a multi-table demo up in a few days using very little actual code: I/O was handled via the ORM & WPF has some amazing data binding capacities (i.e, databind a list view to a data template that gives a really nice presentation: no actual code other than setting the data context!). My last .Net project I had classes for everything I wrote, and handled all the IO & concurrency checking. It was in the 80K line range. WIth ORM you would half that, and 80% of the remainder would have been automatically generated. Now the ORM creates the classes along with all the relationships, as well as all the I/O and even off-line mode pretty much automatically. Hugely more efficient programming wise.

Anyway - that would require major retooling, and as you've probably got all the DB I/O classes written, not worth it. I was lucky that I'm doing brand-new development (and now learning far too much about medical records & medicare along with the WPF & ORM stuff) I just got excited when I saw how easy that was and had to share with someone who would understand.

Prometheus January 26th, 2011 08:24 PM

Universe II
 
Yeah I have Universe I then my wife also an IT professional put Vista on the Desktop ... you can guess what the result was.

Will Universe II resolve that issue?

PS- I am a MAC OSX guy throw a guy a bone will ya? LOL

HG_B January 26th, 2011 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Prometheus (Post 367110)
Will Universe II resolve that issue?

Based on dev platform, it should work fine on Vista.

Prometheus January 26th, 2011 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HG_B (Post 367115)
Based on dev platform, it should work fine on Vista.

OUTSTANDING!!!! Thank you

Magnus von Thornwood January 26th, 2011 11:33 PM

I second this!
 
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Originally Posted by Prometheus (Post 367110)
/ka-snips/

PS- I am a MAC OSX guy throw a guy a bone will ya? LOL

Seriously, it would be awful nice.

Prometheus January 27th, 2011 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnus von Thornwood (Post 367128)
Seriously, it would be awful nice.


Sing along " All we are saying .... IS MAC DOESN'T CRASH "

Hemdian January 27th, 2011 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prometheus (Post 367110)
Yeah I have Universe I then my wife also an IT professional put Vista on the Desktop ... you can guess what the result was.

Will Universe II resolve that issue?

A fuller answer: Currently Universe 2 is being developed on Windows Vista Ultimate and is based on .NET framework 3.5, MS SQL Server 2005, and the Syncfusion component suite. So that should run on all versions of Windows Vista other than Windows Vista Starter edition.

As for Traveller Universe 1.7 ... that will run on Windows Vista Ultimate but not on Windows Vista Home Premium. Whether it runs on other editions of Windows Vista is unknown. If you want more information I have written some Support pages for it.

Quote:

PS- I am a MAC OSX guy throw a guy a bone will ya? LOL
Come over to the dark side, we have cookies.

forthekill January 27th, 2011 10:24 AM

The best way to run Universe on a non-XP OS machine is to use VMWare Workstation and run XP as a VMWare image, which is what I do.

I have Windows 7 Ultimate x64, and I cannot get Universe to work. I am guessing it has something to do with the database drivers being 32-bit and it wanting to use 64-bit versions by default, and I don't have enough knowledge of ODBC to figure it out.

I have not tried the 32-bit version Windows 7 Ultimate, but I am going to create a VM and see if the install will work.

For the most part Vista and Win7 behave the same, so if it works on Vista Ultimate (32-bit) then it should hypothetically work on Win7 (32-bit).

Hopefully in the course of Universe 2 development, support for 64-bit OS will be worked out. I'd be happy to test it!

Prometheus January 27th, 2011 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hemdian (Post 367157)
A fuller answer: Currently Universe 2 is being developed on Windows Vista Ultimate and is based on .NET framework 3.5, MS SQL Server 2005, and the Syncfusion component suite. So that should run on all versions of Windows Vista other than Windows Vista Starter edition.

As for Traveller Universe 1.7 ... that will run on Windows Vista Ultimate but not on Windows Vista Home Premium. Whether it runs on other editions of Windows Vista is unknown. If you want more information I have written some Support pages for it.



Come over to the dark side, we have cookies.

You may have cookies.... but we have "magical" brownies

forthekill February 11th, 2011 10:55 PM

I tried installing Universe on Win 7 Ultimate x32, and so far no luck. Something must be different enough from Vista to cause it to not work.

The installation ran, the XTG driver installed, but no registry entries were created at all, so I did that manually.

I manually imported the database through Interbase, created the DSN, and added the database entry to the registry.

I also added the license fix entry to the registry.

Unfortunately, I just get an Interbase error when I try to run Universe, so I think that about does it for Windows 7.

The one good thing that came out of all these attempts is that I can install and configure Universe in my sleep now.


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