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Tucker March 5th, 2004 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEngineer:

IMHO MT combat tumbles between three extremes:
- You succeed without any problem
- nobody hurts another
- you die nearly instantly

Is that the way technology based combat works ?
Dont know.

Regards,

Mert

This could describe almost any fightin'. But I get your meaning. Frankly, I've had baddies suicide, more or less, just to get back to the simpler vehicle generation system.

Tucker March 5th, 2004 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEngineer:

IMHO MT combat tumbles between three extremes:
- You succeed without any problem
- nobody hurts another
- you die nearly instantly

Is that the way technology based combat works ?
Dont know.

Regards,

Mert

This could describe almost any fightin'. But I get your meaning. Frankly, I've had baddies suicide, more or less, just to get back to the simpler vehicle generation system.

aramis March 5th, 2004 03:17 PM

I use the vehicle combat rules from the Ref's Companion. Eliminates loads of headaches.

Details of how I do it are at my website home.gci.net/~aramis/

aramis March 5th, 2004 03:17 PM

I use the vehicle combat rules from the Ref's Companion. Eliminates loads of headaches.

Details of how I do it are at my website home.gci.net/~aramis/

aramis March 5th, 2004 03:17 PM

I use the vehicle combat rules from the Ref's Companion. Eliminates loads of headaches.

Details of how I do it are at my website home.gci.net/~aramis/

kaladorn March 5th, 2004 08:09 PM

I sort of feel for Tucker (I prefer player decisions and the rules as established to murder players... though sometimes I bail them out if it is bad luck, not bad decisions, that has them in trouble).

I have tried to port BL to MT... ouch. There are some really good bits there, but the lack of MFDs, the different tech, and the allocation of systems to hull locations makes this a bit of a bear. I was thinking of linking MFDs to computer type, but that makes liners rather dangerous! The hit location thing doesn't get any easier, and if I'm not mistaken their are some distinctions between hull types in the two games too.

I'd publish some of my work, but anything referent to MT or to BL is going to infringe someone's IP rights. And publishing the 'other bits' is just too disjoint to be easily readable.

I might be keen, someday, to try a from scratch re-write of space combat for MT, using the generality of the task system and the existing ship designs to come up with a workable fun game a bit like BL.

kaladorn March 5th, 2004 08:09 PM

I sort of feel for Tucker (I prefer player decisions and the rules as established to murder players... though sometimes I bail them out if it is bad luck, not bad decisions, that has them in trouble).

I have tried to port BL to MT... ouch. There are some really good bits there, but the lack of MFDs, the different tech, and the allocation of systems to hull locations makes this a bit of a bear. I was thinking of linking MFDs to computer type, but that makes liners rather dangerous! The hit location thing doesn't get any easier, and if I'm not mistaken their are some distinctions between hull types in the two games too.

I'd publish some of my work, but anything referent to MT or to BL is going to infringe someone's IP rights. And publishing the 'other bits' is just too disjoint to be easily readable.

I might be keen, someday, to try a from scratch re-write of space combat for MT, using the generality of the task system and the existing ship designs to come up with a workable fun game a bit like BL.

kaladorn March 5th, 2004 08:09 PM

I sort of feel for Tucker (I prefer player decisions and the rules as established to murder players... though sometimes I bail them out if it is bad luck, not bad decisions, that has them in trouble).

I have tried to port BL to MT... ouch. There are some really good bits there, but the lack of MFDs, the different tech, and the allocation of systems to hull locations makes this a bit of a bear. I was thinking of linking MFDs to computer type, but that makes liners rather dangerous! The hit location thing doesn't get any easier, and if I'm not mistaken their are some distinctions between hull types in the two games too.

I'd publish some of my work, but anything referent to MT or to BL is going to infringe someone's IP rights. And publishing the 'other bits' is just too disjoint to be easily readable.

I might be keen, someday, to try a from scratch re-write of space combat for MT, using the generality of the task system and the existing ship designs to come up with a workable fun game a bit like BL.

solsec23 March 10th, 2004 01:32 PM

I agree that the MT starship combat rules lack some zing.

I think as a wargame, it's fine, but I've always had a problem with 20 minute turns being 'exciting'.

Guess I grew up with too much Battlestar Galactica, Buck Rogers, and Star Wars.

I'm keeping my current group out of starship combat for now, but later I'll bring it all together.

I am toying with the idea of making starship combat completely skill based, with certain adjustments for computer power and weapon effects.

I think the biggest problem is that while the MT SS combat does allow for skill replacement of certain computer factors, etc, most often I find that on the 'real' military vessels, their computer number is usually higher than character skill levels.

Why learn Turret weapons-3 only to not be able to use it when firing weapons from a ship with a model 3+ computer?

Once I figure out how I want to spice things up I'll post it for everyone's feedback.

Keep the engine running and the weapons hot,

Robert

solsec23 March 10th, 2004 01:32 PM

I agree that the MT starship combat rules lack some zing.

I think as a wargame, it's fine, but I've always had a problem with 20 minute turns being 'exciting'.

Guess I grew up with too much Battlestar Galactica, Buck Rogers, and Star Wars.

I'm keeping my current group out of starship combat for now, but later I'll bring it all together.

I am toying with the idea of making starship combat completely skill based, with certain adjustments for computer power and weapon effects.

I think the biggest problem is that while the MT SS combat does allow for skill replacement of certain computer factors, etc, most often I find that on the 'real' military vessels, their computer number is usually higher than character skill levels.

Why learn Turret weapons-3 only to not be able to use it when firing weapons from a ship with a model 3+ computer?

Once I figure out how I want to spice things up I'll post it for everyone's feedback.

Keep the engine running and the weapons hot,

Robert


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