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Spinward Scout September 11th, 2014 12:38 AM

The best scale for gaming?
 
What would you consider the best scale for Traveller tabletop gaming? Not mass combat, but enough to see good details on the minis and can fit on a normal table.

aramis September 11th, 2014 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Spinward Scout (Post 489547)
What would you consider the best scale for Traveller tabletop gaming? Not mass combat, but enough to see good details on the minis and can fit on a normal table.

15mm is low on details, but is VERY nice on the limited table space most people have.

28-30mm is best for details while still being playable.

52mm is cool for detail character models, but is too big for comforable play on a typical apartment-suitable sized dining table.

Orr September 11th, 2014 03:18 AM

What Aramis said.

Considering the game's weapon ranges, especially outdoors, even at 15mm you'll occasionally be shooting from one side of the table to another.

While it's mass combat I think Striker touched on that concern, the movement capabilities of grav tanks specifically.

aramis September 11th, 2014 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Orr (Post 489558)
What Aramis said.

Considering the game's weapon ranges, especially outdoors, even at 15mm you'll occasionally be shooting from one side of the table to another.

While it's mass combat I think Striker touched on that concern, the movement capabilities of grav tanks specifically.

Note that many 15mm minis games with tanks use a ground scale of either 1:1000, 1:1100, or 1:1200... making the ground scale 10x smaller than the figure scale. (Many 6mm games, including Ogre, also used separate figure and ground scales.)

Orr September 11th, 2014 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by aramis (Post 489561)
Note that many 15mm minis games with tanks use a ground scale of either 1:1000, 1:1100, or 1:1200... making the ground scale 10x smaller than the figure scale. (Many 6mm games, including Ogre, also used separate figure and ground scales.)


Yup, sometimes you've got to jigger things by adding a "scale within the scale" to make things "fit".

aramis September 11th, 2014 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Orr (Post 489562)
Yup, sometimes you've got to jigger things by adding a "scale within the scale" to make things "fit".

Well, even the esteemed GDW did that.

Striker
1cm=10m is 1:1000, but the figures are between 1:105 and 1:110.

Similarly, the official deckplans are presented for play in Snapshot and AHL at 1:118, while again, the figures recommended are 1:105-1:110.

Seeker Gaming Systems and Fasa also used the same 1:118 (0.5":1.5m, or 12.7mm:1500mm)

It was the defacto industry standard.

Orr September 11th, 2014 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by aramis (Post 489563)
It was the defacto industry standard.


It has to be. It's the only way you can have a fig that looks like something other than a lumpy bb in scale where weapon/movement ranges aren't bigger than the table.

Ulsyus September 11th, 2014 05:47 AM

But what do you want to do? PC action with up to 15 or so figures max on the table? 25/28mm will do fine there. Deckplans could be blown up to this scale too, you'd just need a large table in the end to put everything on.

I use 15mm for my sci fi skirmish games. Things fit nicely onto a normal-sized table, & a ground scale of 1:167 seems to work well enough (this was originally derived from a base size in a game that had the ground scale intentionally ommitted...)

aramis September 11th, 2014 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ulsyus (Post 489570)
But what do you want to do? PC action with up to 15 or so figures max on the table? 25/28mm will do fine there. Deckplans could be blown up to this scale too, you'd just need a large table in the end to put everything on.

I use 15mm for my sci fi skirmish games. Things fit nicely onto a normal-sized table, & a ground scale of 1:167 seems to work well enough (this was originally derived from a base size in a game that had the ground scale intentionally ommitted...)

1:167?

1:160 is N-scale, and 1:161 is 10mm

Spinward Scout September 11th, 2014 02:14 PM

Awesome. Thanks everybody!


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