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AnotherDilbert March 11th, 2019 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Redcap (Post 599992)
"Would, though, the Zho's do this?" is the next question, mind you :)

See Shivva, the standard Zho light patrol ship.

Redcap March 11th, 2019 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AnotherDilbert (Post 599993)
The Shivva class is a staple from CT. It is a small ship carrying light fighters.

I considered, and discounted, a single Shivva class as being way way waaaaay the heck out of it's operating parameters doing this kinda thing. Pity, because the illustrations are well whacky :)

Redcap March 11th, 2019 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AnotherDilbert (Post 599994)
See Shivva, the standard Zho light patrol ship.

Heh, see above. I'm of the opinion that it would be well out of place; only what, 700dT? With armaments that couldn't even kill a Chrysanthamum easily?

Redcap March 11th, 2019 04:04 PM

Y'know, the more I think about it, IS there such a thing as a Destroyer, Carrier, Light? I mean a destroyer-sized ship with at least a ten-ship or more flight of fighters it can launch, within the 5,000-10,000 dT bracket, that can also pack a wallop in addition to its fighters?

AnotherDilbert March 11th, 2019 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Redcap (Post 599999)
Y'know, the more I think about it, IS there such a thing as a Destroyer, Carrier, Light?

That is not a strange idea, but we have to go to docking clamps to carry the fighters externally:

6000 Dt, J-3, M-6, Armour 14, Hull 2900, MCr 6800 (incl. fighters).
Survivable in combat, but main weapon is the fighters.
Stealthed hull, stealth jump drive.
Carries 18 stealthed fighters externally and 2 internally (for repairs).
60 modular hardpoints that can carry any barbettes or turret, here
_ 30 Particle barbettes and
_ 30 laser turrets.
1 Aux. bridge/Sub-command centre.
2 Sub-command centres.

https://i.imgur.com/IGTwMS6.png

https://i.imgur.com/g2eIsfG.png


Stealth fighter with reasonable sensors:
35 Dt, M-9, R-16, Armour 14, Hull 17, MCr 86
Fully stealthed, military sensors, any barbette e.g. fusion barbette.
Small 4 Dt cargo hold that can carry reaction fuel, 16 passengers, or cargo.
https://i.imgur.com/PUizk21.png

Redcap March 11th, 2019 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AnotherDilbert (Post 600005)
(MAHOOSIVE snippage)


Interesting. Replace particle barbettes with laser turrets for CIWS usage (point defence), increase tonnage by a few hundred to create space for PA bays and repulsors, maybe add a black globe?

AnotherDilbert March 11th, 2019 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Redcap (Post 600007)
Interesting. Replace particle barbettes with laser turrets for CIWS usage (point defence), increase tonnage by a few hundred to create space for PA bays and repulsors, maybe add a black globe?

Particle barbettes are good against fighters and ships. Lasers are good against missiles.

Repulsors (tractor beams) are not a standard component in MgT2 anymore.

PA bays only do a little more damage than PA barbettes, they are not very size-effective. More fighters are more effective.

AnotherDilbert March 11th, 2019 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Redcap (Post 599995)
I considered, and discounted, a single Shivva class as being way way waaaaay the heck out of it's operating parameters doing this kinda thing. Pity, because the illustrations are well whacky :)

Quite, it's too small, but it illustrates the concept: the Zho using a light carrier with fighters where the Impies would use a ship.

Redcap March 11th, 2019 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AnotherDilbert (Post 600012)
Particle barbettes are good against fighters and ships. Lasers are good against missiles.

Repulsors (tractor beams) are not a standard component in MgT2 anymore.

PA bays only do a little more damage than PA barbettes, they are not very size-effective. More fighters are more effective.

Re Repulsors: Bugger, and other words. Why, oh why, oh bleedin' WHY did they dump those?!

Right, then. Leave the Laser turrets and PA barbettes where they be.

How about replacing the idea of using bay repulsors with a spinal PA instead, for longer range engagements?

Oh, and forget the black globe, use a nuclear damper instead?

AnotherDilbert March 11th, 2019 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Redcap (Post 600016)
How about replacing the idea of using bay repulsors with a spinal PA instead, for longer range engagements?

Oh, and forget the black globe, use a nuclear damper instead?

A much larger ship is needed for a spinal, something like 30+ kDt. Note that particle barbette/bays have longer range than spinals.

Black Globes are TL15, so out of reach for the Zho, except possibly as very expensive prototypes.

My last designs has a few Dampers.


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