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Blue Ghost June 28th, 2019 06:35 PM

I seem to recall that Lords of Thunder was part of a quadrilogy authored by Jack L. Chalker I can't remember much of it though or am I thinking Pirates of Thunder? Oh well.

Blue Ghost June 28th, 2019 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by GypsyComet (Post 603469)
Hints abound that for every Terran uplift we have been informed of, at least one more has avoided the annals of history, often by looking like the one we know about.

The infamous uplifted Portuguese Man O' War is rumored to have created an undersea citadel at the bottom of Bellerophon's deepest oceans. (Nomads of the Ocean World reference Orcas are probably resident there too as well as uplifted dolphins).

timerover51 June 28th, 2019 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by Condottiere (Post 603474)
Well, Rocket Raccoons.

Rocket J. Squirrel.

Blue Ghost June 28th, 2019 09:24 PM

I hear tell of uplifted Mooses (Meese?) in these parts.

Uplifted dolphins with psioncs? Psionic Orcas? Psionic squirrels?

Blue Ghost June 29th, 2019 01:00 AM

Uplifted avians from Starfleet Wars miniatures' game. Or the Ophiuschis from Starfire.

Condottiere June 29th, 2019 02:44 AM

NIMHian Mice with magic users.

Barrel June 29th, 2019 03:01 AM

Sea otters would still need some land available to them. Completely aquatic mammals like dolphins might work better in a true blue water situation.

BlackBat242 June 30th, 2019 04:30 AM


Originally Posted by timerover51 (Post 603472)
Meerkats are used by Hosteen Storm in Andre Norton's books, Beast Master and Lord of Thunder, and are more intelligent than the normal ones. As for Raccoons, I have already given them some thought. I chose Sea Otters as they are already tool users, and are also more able to operate on land than Dolphins.


Originally Posted by Blue Ghost (Post 603475)
I seem to recall that Lords of Thunder was part of a quadrilogy authored by Jack L. Chalker I can't remember much of it though or am I thinking Pirates of Thunder? Oh well.

Definitely thinking of Pirates.

The Andre Norton series is:
The Beast Master (1959) [rev. 1961]
Lord of Thunder (1962)
Beast Master's Ark (2002) (with Lyn McConchie)
Beast Master's Circus (2004) (with Lyn McConchie)
Beast Master's Quest (2006) (with Lyn McConchie)

And uplifted otters - both sea & land - sounds like a "fun" time... if you get their mischievousness level under control.

Blue Ghost June 30th, 2019 02:37 PM

Thank you for the correction. It's been ages since I read Chalker's series.

Back to Orcas;
I started the thread because I think in one of Kurt Weigel's YouTube game reviews (Blue Planet RPG) he made mention of an Orca somewhere. Either that or when I was reading the big Referee's book there was mention of an Orca as a murderer. Which is somewhat at odds with what we know about Orcas. Where they are predators they are pretty methodical and have a particular taste for certain prey, notably sharks.

They seem to be primary candidates for Traveller water world local "experts" or even support for some kind of maritime or submarine operation.

Just some thoughts.

gchuck July 28th, 2019 01:44 PM

Trolled this thread for a few days now. Read through the 'wiki' on Orcas, and think I'll give it a go.

Saturdays' mission is to a water world, 1530 Storr, and I was all set to dump T. Galactus (dolphins), on the players. Instead, I think Orcas might be a better choice. They seem to have a wider range of travel, according to the 'wiki'. And my take on the 'wiki', seems to imply a greater affinity/tolerance/affection for humans than dolphins.

Gonna use the dolphin generation rules, 6d hits, 3d death, with a +2 per die. On account of their size(3d3 meters).

Rationale is: They were part of an exploration/settlement program started by ROM scientists, and were forgotten/abandoned after the collapse.

Communication will be impossible, of course, but the Orcas will have a 'racial' memory of Humaniti.

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, let the jocularity begin!

This is gonna be oh, so much fun!

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