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aramis April 18th, 2017 04:02 PM

Why ...
 
A couple recent issues I'm going to address the "why" behind...

No hidden links
Primary reason? People should know where a link is taking them.
"Clicky Clicky" type stuff is particularly annoying and will be infracted, not warned. This is an OLD policy.
The minimum expected is either the name of the owner of the site (EG [a="http://copyright.gov"]US Copyright Office[/a]) or the stuff between slash #2 and #3, eg CD's at [a="http://farfuture.net/FFE-CDROMs.html]Farfuture.net[/a].
Also expected is, if the page is anything other than a basic webpage, what kind of file. Such as [a=https://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ01.pdf]US Copyright Circular 1 (PDF)[/a]

No emails in posts
generally, excepting mail-list signup/exit links, and certain published/public emails, send them via private message instead.
Why? because
  • posts stay pretty much forever.
  • bots can crawl the site and get stuff that normally only members see
  • spammers sometimes get through to harvest emails before being stupid and posting spam.

No group attacks
This includes "all players of X are yutzes", and also, "It's impossible to misconstrue the rules the way you do." Both are attacks on a group of people. There are certain hotbutton issues where this is extremely common behavior.

It's not a modern political correctness issue - it's basic courtesy.

No Real World Religion nor Politics - not even related to the game's setting - outside the political pulpit
It's been a MAJOR issue in the past. As in, hurt feelings, threats of legal action, and users quitting.

Politics -
Real world politics are, for our purposes, post 1970. Pre 1970 is History. Limited exception as noted in the Twilight 2000 board

Carlobrand April 18th, 2017 10:33 PM

What are the global parameters of real-world politics. I gather anything involving the U.S. or any issue that might be controversial in the U.S. - Israel and the Arab world, for example - is an obvious concern, but is there a problem if we bring up something like Eritrea and its effort to gain independence from Ethiopia as an example of something that could serve as a model for some conflict on a world in the Marches, or start discussing the economics behind the Somali pirates in the course of a discussion about piracy?

pendragonman April 19th, 2017 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlobrand (Post 564006)
What are the global parameters of real-world politics. I gather anything involving the U.S. or any issue that might be controversial in the U.S. - Israel and the Arab world, for example - is an obvious concern, but is there a problem if we bring up something like Eritrea and its effort to gain independence from Ethiopia as an example of something that could serve as a model for some conflict on a world in the Marches, or start discussing the economics behind the Somali pirates in the course of a discussion about piracy?

As he said, anything after 1970 is RIGHT OUT. So, since the Eritrea issue is a "local" political issue for East Africa and is post 1970, it is verboten. Pirate economics as linked to present day Somalia would like wise be verboten.

Now, discussing the economics of SE Asian piracy of the 1950's and 60's, which have a few peer reviewed scholarly articles out there would not be politics.

Discussing Algeria's separation from France (which I note also has several peer reviewed scholarly articles) is open to discussion as well.

So, my WAG is that if it has several peer reviewed scholarly articles available for reading then it is probably fair game. Stuff newer than 1970 usually does not have that kind of research done on it. Too easy to get research funding blocked for stepping on toes.

Supplement Four April 19th, 2017 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aramis (Post 563962)
No hidden links
Primary reason? People should know where a link is taking them.
"Clicky Clicky" type stuff is particularly annoying and will be infracted, not warned. This is an OLD policy.

So, just to clarify, since I'm the "clicky, clicky" guy...

Which of these do you prefer...

1. Check out the Star Wars Logo: HERE!

2. Check out the Star Wars Logo: Star Wars Logo

3. Check out the Star Wars Logo: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...s_Logo.svg.png

McPerth April 19th, 2017 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supplement Four (Post 564056)
So, just to clarify, since I'm the "clicky, clicky" guy...

Which of these do you prefer...

1. Check out the Star Wars Logo: HERE!

2. Check out the Star Wars Logo: Star Wars Logo

3. Check out the Star Wars Logo: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...s_Logo.svg.png

I'd say all three would be OK, as in all cases you indicate what one will find when clicking it. What is not is a post where there's just a link. without any indication about what it is about, as would be:

even if it is related to the discussion in the thread.

Unfurtonately, there have been such posts, even as OP for a thread (so with no hint about what are they about).

Likewise, if a thread is about this same issue, this one will be OK.

Quote:

read this thread about it
While this other one:

will not, even if refering to the same thread.

whulorigan April 19th, 2017 01:29 PM

Someone should probably make this thread a "Sticky" Thread.

McPerth April 19th, 2017 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whulorigan (Post 564060)
Someone should probably make this thread a "Sticky" Thread.

Done

Supplement Four April 19th, 2017 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McPerth (Post 564059)
I'd say all three would be OK...

OK, good. I actually thought Wil was asking for something else.

Thanks.

Carlobrand April 19th, 2017 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pendragonman (Post 564046)
As he said, anything after 1970 is RIGHT OUT. So, since the Eritrea issue is a "local" political issue for East Africa and is post 1970, it is verboten. Pirate economics as linked to present day Somalia would like wise be verboten.

Now, discussing the economics of SE Asian piracy of the 1950's and 60's, which have a few peer reviewed scholarly articles out there would not be politics.

Discussing Algeria's separation from France (which I note also has several peer reviewed scholarly articles) is open to discussion as well.

So, my WAG is that if it has several peer reviewed scholarly articles available for reading then it is probably fair game. Stuff newer than 1970 usually does not have that kind of research done on it. Too easy to get research funding blocked for stepping on toes.

Okay, that makes it pretty straightforward.

aramis April 20th, 2017 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlobrand (Post 564089)
Okay, that makes it pretty straightforward.

the point is to keep the contentious views in the pit, where investment in the board and draconian "get insulting and take a week off" keep the toxic stuff from the pit during Hunter's time a thing of the past.

the link rules arise from a combination of rickrolls and people complaining about links to sites that set off their firewall.

Not that any link off site needs to mention the site it's taking you to. Whether these get infracted vs warned is a matter left to the discretion of the staffer dealing with it.

Another important pair:

Deletion Notice Warning
While we use the infraction system for deletion notices, they don't count against you in any way. They log the communication. If you take offense to them, do NOT bother arguing them. They're used to inform the board staff and the posting user at the same time.

Death Notices
Really, these should only be posted by staff, and only after verified. As soon as I see the correct obit, I move their account into Absent Friends group... which has no posting privs.

We have, in the past, had users post death notices that were false; prior administrators deleted them, and I'll do likewise.


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