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  #138 New May 12th, 2019 08:26 PM
An interesting snippet showed up the other day in the local paper. It seems that the levels of the Great Lakes are considerably above average, with Lake Superior probably looking as some record highs. Superior is about 3 feet above the normal average, while Michigan-Huron are about 2 feet. The records only go back about a century, so not exactly that long term. However, it does remind me of a few years ago when the climate alarmists were howling that the lake level were permanently down, and would never come back, and the levels would continue to decline unless humans did something. What that something was was never quite spelled out. Two years later, the lakes were back to their normal levels. Now that the lakes are higher than normal, I do not hear a peep out of those climate alarmists, indicating that just maybe they did not know what they were talking about. Living nest to 20 per cent of the World's fresh water id not a bad idea.

I do get a kick out of all of the California's screaming about we are running out of water, everyone has to conserve, you need to gather all of the rainwater that falls on you rood and store it for watering your lawn, etc. California has always had water problems and in this case, humans have made them worse. They are irrigating mile upon mile of desert to produce almonds for export, while screaming that the Great Lakes shoudl be piping water to them. The problem is that California does not vote in Canada. If you move to California or live there, you knew what you were getting into. I have not a lot of sympathy for you. If you do not like rationed water, then move out. I hear that Oregon and Washington have plenty of water, along with Maine and the Upper Penisula of Michigan. Now, the 40 below up in the UP might get to you a bit, but you will have plenty of water to drink. Just a matter of tradeoffs.
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#6 August 9th, 2019 04:17 AM
timerover51 Says:
The rise in the Great Lakes levels has nothing to do with melting glaciers or ice caps, neither of which affect the lakes. It has to do with a lot more rainfall that the average, making up for the dry years. Basically, the Lake level is constantly changing, based on rainfall in the drainage area, evaporation during the summer, and ice coverage in the winter. The closest glacier is probably in Glacier National Park, which melting likely flows into the Missouri River and out into the Gulf of Mexico. As for the Arctic Ice Cap, that is continually varying as well. Just read the accounts of the Arctic whaling fleet from roughly 1850 to the early 1900s, and the Ice Cap expanded and contracted. Some years, there was a lot of open water, and some years, there was pretty much no clear opening to get to Point Barrow and further east.
#5 August 7th, 2019 01:16 PM
I suspect we will find that the increase is due to the melting of the glaciers and ice caps, it has to go somewhere the Great Lakes do access the ocean. Not saying I'm right but I suspect that would be the explanation. Which is still not good.
#4 May 17th, 2019 01:26 PM
SpaceBadger Says:
I think you still have comments set for Moderation. OK if you don't want any comments; I'll stop writing them.
#3 May 14th, 2019 01:15 AM
SpaceBadger Says:
Now that I'm back home in Missouri I once more deride the idea of "saving water" on a personal scale in this part of the country. Any water that my family uses either goes directly back into the water table, percolating down through the layers of rock to reach a cave or aquifer, or else evaporates into the atmosphere to form clouds and return to us as rain. In that cycle, there's no need to "save" any water, unless we're in a (fairly rare) drought period and they worry about the water tables dropping too low; most of us rural folks have our own wells.
#2 May 14th, 2019 01:15 AM
SpaceBadger Says:
Why yes, I did formerly live in the desert, in El Paso down on the Tex-Mex border. I worked downtown, so we lived in Kern Place, a small and old neighborhood just up over the edge of the mesa above downtown. Our house had deed restrictions preventing xeriscaping (desert landscaping with indigenous plants that could live on local rainfall) or letting the lawn die to replace it with pea gravel (popular in some other neighborhoods to save water), so we had to water a minimal amount to keep the grass alive, but we were fortunate to have a very small front yard and the previous owners had put in drought-resistant grass, so it wasn't overly expensive.
#1 May 14th, 2019 01:13 AM
SpaceBadger Says:
Yah. Moving to a desert and then wanting to steal water from other watersheds to allow green lawns and golf courses has always struck me as incredibly wasteful. The market answer is to make those wanting to use water that isn't naturally part of their watershed or aquifers pay through the nose for uses that go beyond basic hydration and hygiene. Agriculture is sometimes a sticky problem: the water is there and irrigation can produce useful food, but trying to irrigate the whole desert (or take water from A's desert to water B's desert) is just greedy and wasteful. The answer in many places is water rights: how much water was historically used to irrigate this piece of land? That's how much you get for free, extra you pay for. Then it gets tricky again with allowing transfer of water rights away from the original land parcel. [Darn, another comment too long, need to split.]

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