This is one of those times when the forum gets a bit frustrating. One discussion is going on, and while I have made a couple of comments, I cannot say a lot more with respects to some of the other comments being made. They are not correct, but I cannot say why they are not correct, nor can I say why my unsupported word should be taken. That shows up periodically, all in defense issues. Anyone reading this should look again at my signature long and hard and do some thinking. Any time something does "Boom" in the world, my son calls and asks if anyone has paid a visit. He is not joking however. My family understands that if I say I need to talk on the phone and not have anyone listen what that means. It is hard to have conversations on some subjects when you have worked for agencies known by their acronyms.